So after blasting the trim with butane and doing the water purge I was really lost. I saw some people use a double boiler some use a oven. 2) To make either (a) shatter or (b) wax, what procedure would you recommend for stage 6, using a vacuum chamber and heat source, i.e. Tek BHO: BEST way to purge without vacuum? The principle of this type of purging is as simple as the traditional system, which uses a laboratory heating plate and a vacuum chamber for BHO (with its corresponding vacuum pump). In this video, I show you how I make my #shatter wax concentrate #BHO open blast process. A vacuum oven IS A MUST!!!! I'm leaning more towards a heat method but not sure. Otherwise it's garbage and the chemicals will leave crystallized deposits in your lungs causing pulmonary fibrosis and /or carcinoma. JavaScript is disabled. If you want to learn how to vacuum purge BHO, you’ve come to right place. Set the vacuum oven for 90 degrees F. This seems to be a sweet spot for BHO because it’s long past the temperature where butane begins to dissolve. This should take around 10 minutes. I would truly appreciate any help this is occurring as we speak. looking for some advice wondering if its possibly to make some shatter or bho by running it, then water bath. Now scrape out your BHO and transfer it onto your BHO mat in a thin layer. is there an estimated/ ball park time length of purge time in a vacuum chamber on heat Say per one gram of oil or 1. Scrape the BHO onto the parchment paper and let it cool. 1g bho to 3 tablespoon Everclear/ISO is what I heard but don't remember.. did i miss something? Thanks guys. Different strains/techniques produce different types of BHO. I have the griddle on low do I need to keep it going till these bubbles stop? Large … Thread starter vapor33; Start date Feb 8, 2014; Prev. Any recommendations? how much time, temperature, pressure? Thread starter tred9thx; Start date Feb 6, 2014; 1; 2; Next. Welcome to the World of DIY Concentrates This is the way I do it. While you may not have the capacity to purge your extract with an inert gas (e.g. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm not using a vacuum purge obviously that's why I'm here. If you are not aware of what a vacuum purge is, how it works and most importantly why you need it, this article is here to help you. Other samples and forms of BHO. then oven @ 150 for … http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grip-Rite-Dri-Rite-Rosin-Bag-For-Bowling-Pool-Dart-Baseball-2-PACK-/150776421021?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231af99a9d, https://secure.drierite.com/catalog3/page4b.cfm. Can you guys guys take a look at this Real quick? BHO is extracted on a pyrex plate to which we have to put baking paper or a silicone tablecloth, trying to make a homogeneous layer. I will look at the best vacuum pump for BHO and weigh the pros and cons of each. Congratulations, you’ve officially learned how to make shatter! You will thank me later. I use 125F for ethanol purging, because otherwise the solution blows enormous bubbles that defy bursting without bumping vacuum levels. BHO without butane traces. Thank you for your reply. If you are unsure (and frequently IME even when you are … So after blasting the trim with butane and doing the water purge I was really lost. herbivore21 Well-Known Member. Before you begin, make sure you are in a well-ventilated area. A vacuum oven or chamber is a must. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Anyways I basically stumbled upon alot of trim and decided to have him help me. The easiest way to remove a solvent from your oil is to boil it. i want god damn like button back...... now i have to do this. When you vacuum purge your final product, it helps to remove the solvents (namely butane) from your dabs. Well, of course a vacuum is better/smarter but I think if you are just doing small, personal batches than the hot water bath works just fine. qwizoking Well-Known Member. whats up guys? If you are in … Step 4: Cold Purge. He however didn't have any recommendations when it came to purging without one. GW If you are not using a vac oven then you are not removing all the solvents. My question to you guys is what are some good methods? war posted up a link to dry rite rosin bags..... You must log in or register to reply here. The best way to purge without a vacuum is to use a very accurate oven that can hold the temp at 170f - 175f, spread the Bho as thin as possible on parchment paper (after your initial waterbath purge) to create as much surface area as possible. All you need is a few simple ingredients. You can use heat but not high heat. He however didn't have any recommendations when it came to purging without one. During this time, agitate the liquid with a fork to help remove bubbles. You want to get it to as close to 0 ppm's so it's safe to smoke. My advice would be to winterize your bho with everclear if at all possible if you are not going to vac purge. then oven @ 150 for 25 min. I’m not the god of BHO. Do not waste 100 dollars to pay to use a vacuum oven, if you can afford material to blast with, you can certainly afford a vacuum. I've seen methods such as the oven, a griddle even doing a flush with everclear. Yeah I've always used 99% but I have a bottle of 151 still. Sorry of this seems like a stupid question. The simplest way to make BHO shatter with a vacuum, purge is detailed below. I don't necessarily wanna throw it out because there is alot of it. im new to concentrates and have been reading up on small bho runs with no vacuum. I don't know any scientific data off hand to prove if you can get 100% of the tane out of it but I'm sure others will chime in more about that. Opened up the oven every 5 mintues waiting for bubbles to disappear well they didn't after about 45 minutes. im new to concentrates and have been reading up on small bho runs with no vacuum. or is it amateur hour and a vacuum is better/smarter. So I don't have a vacuum purge and I'm not ready to buy one yet. You must log in or register to reply here. Sure it can be done using only heat. You can do a dual solvent extraction using butane as the primary solvent then using a secondary solvent such as 190proof everclear to purge the primary solvent.....However, that means open blasting. But here are a few brief points: - It is better to overpurge than underpurge. Then it is placed on a heating plate at a temperature between 104 and 111º F. (40-44º C.) and we start purging. At least that way you are sure you have purged all the butane. Well I'm afraid that I did something wrong because it became pretty dark. Yes you can purge without vac. Assume sea-level elevation, 55g starting material, 7.5g pre-winterised BHO, 1g dry-weight waxes lost from winterisation, so end product about 6.5g. dried CO2 gas), you do have the ability to extract BHO at room temperature and pull a full vacuum, assuming you have a vacuum chamber. The oven works best because it keeps the top layer of bho viscous enough to let the butane bubble out and escape. May 13, 2015 #26 Whoa, so much I could add here but alas, no time. Compacted BHO after the vacuum purge. Leave it for 30 minutes, depressurise, and then back to 29” HG. With the help of a hot plate, time and patience you can also achieve the Shatter finish. here are some old videos from the original youtube before it got deleted at 10kthanks to everyone for the support. Set the vacuum to 27” HG and watch the BHO closely to make sure it doesn’t over puff or explode (it may puff a little). This allows the BHO to remain liquid and for the butane to more easily escape without getting trapped. Hello folks just a question on purging. Repeat this process until you are happy that the BHO has been fully purged. Allow the hot water bath to purge and evaporate away the excess liquid butane – waiting for the reaction to slow. Safety is of the utmost importance. If you’re feeling impatient, place it in the freezer, but leaving at room temperature is fine. Both factors, temperature … I've done alot of research and see mixed feelings on purging without a vacuum. Or can someone send me a link to a good pressure pot with vacuum for cheap? Link is at the bottom. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. Just make sure you extend your purge times a significant amount to allow the alcohol to evaporate all the way off. The less heat you use the better for the oil. I personally do not care for a product that has not been winterized nor vac purged. 1 of 2 Go to page. To vacuum purge, the viscosity of the material needs to be low enough for the bubbles to readily escape. Heat lowers the viscosity, so I heat the material in a thin film until it reaches that state, but no hotter. They don't sell 190 proof in some parts of the US and Canada from what I've read, yes? Heat purge BHO with vacuum ovens. I was thinking of using Everclear 151 as my winterizing solvent but I can't decide between that or 99% ISO.. Or yes like you said leave it out for longer period of time at room temp without adding heat. After you’ve learned how to make BHO, you’re gonna want to vacuum purge it in order to improve its texture, consistency, taste, and purity by removing your solvent and other contaminants. The temps you use to purge can be about 20f higher than the vacuum method to achieve the same finishes. This makes for a purer product, and a cleaner smoke. How to make BHO Shatter without vacuum. What ratio do you guys do? I have a friend that does Bho all the time but always uses a vacuum purge. And, it can even end up being unsafe. Feb 6, 2014 #1 whats up guys? I tried the oven method. I think I'mma order this tomorrow. tred9thx Member. However, anything above 90 degrees F may result in losing cannabinoids. I’m writing this article because I have taught many people how to make it, and I’d rather just send them to the instructions. I’ve been hesitant to write this article, because articles on Shatter, bring the stoner squids out of the woodwork. Going with the lower proof will it still have the same affect? heat changes the stability of the room temperature form. I live in Cali and from what I understand I'm not able to purchase 190 proof. the problem is i dont have a vacuum pump and the ways i've tried to purge my bho i think have failed until now because both bho after i "finished" purgin and i used the lighter and they didnt sparkle still but when i put them on the nail the sparkled (not that much but still sparkle wich means i didnt purge properly) on the other hand i am afraid to continue with my method … The Simplest Way To Make BHO Shatter With Vacuum Purge. Next Last. It is important to highlight and remember that during a BHO extractions we are using butane gas, and we must be extremely careful when we deal with any volatile product that can be set on fire with a simple spark … Here's a look at the process I take to try and purge my concentrate the best I can. I tried … Go. I saw some people use a double boiler some use a oven. For many people, the thought of making shatter at home is intimidating. Extremely extended heat purge (1-2 days) or simpy invest 200-250 dollars in a vacuum pump and chamber. If you are especially intolerant or health conscious than vac purge is the only way to go, from a sort of patient prospective. If your running BHO and hoping to purge successfully without one, give up the thought, its not gonna happen. This isn't something im looking to make into a career but just somthing to make myself some personals. The process consists of exposing the extract to a certain temperature in a vacuum environment, at an extremely low pressure. Many thanks The boiling point of butane is -0.5C at standard atmospheric pressure (1 bar/1 atm/14.5 PSI). If this is all ok, release the vacuum, then set it to 29” HG at this temperature. Can I make bho without a vacuum chamber? I kept it in the oven at 170f which I read was recommended. Quick help guys. no vacuum- heat purge bho. Also I'm fairly new at this I've done alot of reading and I mean alot but a few parts have me stuck. I don't have fancy equipment or a lot of money. JavaScript is disabled. How to Use a Purge Oven for BHO. If I can taste a hint of butane it makes me gag. I probly sound like a broken record by now but for personal use you could purge with a mityvac brake bleeder like I do. looking for some advice wondering if its possibly to make some shatter or bho by running it, then water bath. After the final vacuum purge is complete, your shatter is ready to cool. Go. I think it needs to be 190 proof or more or else too much water. I can make honeycomb wax with it & it cost me less than $30...add a heating pad for $15 & you got yourself a lo tech DIY vac oven. if you are trying to make shatter then a little more heat is acceptable and even a torch could be used at later stages in the air/heat purge to encourage more b out. It may seem intimidating but here is the simplest way to make BHO shatter with vacuum purge. There are many ways to make it and many many more opinions. If you knew a little bit about what you are talking about then you would know not to give such advice. If you don't have a great vacuum pump, your BHO is going to suck. Saw a few other methods as well but I wanna hear what you guys have to say. I have a friend that does Bho all the time but always uses a vacuum purge. Anyways I basically stumbled upon alot of trim and decided to have him help me. REMEMBER TO BE SAFE WHEN WORKING WITH FLAMMABLE GASES. Jan 9, 2014 #2 You want shatter..using butane..no vac Winterize in everclear..removes waxes and such as well as the butane leaves you with nice shatter If you just heat purge, chances are you won't get real … Usually between 100F/115F. 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