If you want to use the helmet without the chin bar, you must have a place to keep it. 10 Best Bike Mirror Reviews For Road Bikes & Mountain Bikes! Thats a good idea which I'll do in future. This is perhaps where the most radical difference is between the two and again I think it is the result of the downhill certification requirements. The Switchblade will be here permanently of course. Compared next to each other they are of very similar dimensions all around and from looks alone you would be hard pushed to see much difference between them. The mouth vent also has a grill. The GoPro mount can make the Bell Super 3R a little heavier. I don’t know. I’ve no real strong opinion here as to which I prefer. And now open, but you must also release the hook from the vertical pin before flexing the whole chin-bar apart to remove from the helmet. I agree. I have to climb everything I go down, so trail riding, but I still hit the downhills as hard as I dare, and really need a FF for those times. It is important to remember in this review that full face helmets (open face helmets) do not well insure complete safety. Thanks again for the effort that you put into this write-up. The 3 height adjustments along with the wheel system increases adjustability and comfort. This helmet can be well-adjusted by the use of only your thumb and index fingers, but insertion might be a little difficult at the lowest height level. On my regular bike helmet the strap runs up in contact with my face all the way to the helmet’s attachment point. The non-convertible party is not as well attended, with Fox’s new Proframe and MET’s recently updated Parachute holding down the dance floor. If this was a full face helmet, it would have been more warm and comfortable. Since the Bell Super 2R maintained uncomfortable pressure points around riders’ temples, Bell made significant changes to the helmet. Yes, the 3R was made after reviews on 2R were read. Similar to a regular helmet except protection extends down the back of the head. Yes, you should get it if you have read the reviews and are convinces that it is the right fit for your needs.   Your previous content has been restored. Fantastic post @WARPed1701D! My complaint here is that the double D rings can poke you in the Adams apple when you look down. No MIPS and only standard basic test rating like the 3R although I suspect the 3R is likely to offer greater protection above and beyond the standard vs this one which is listed as lightweight and smaller. Your mileage may vary, and probably will. As part of buying protective gear for my new EUC I ordered two different full face MIPS enhanced bicycle helmets made by reputable brands; the Bell Super 3R and the Giro Switchblade. The lack of this certification demands for higher impact protection in case you will require to ride in risky trail. So for me, a helmet even provably lesser could do me more good, and boosts the appeal of the Bell considerably. You can post now and register later. The more opinions added the more valuable this will become. I will be particularly interested in the follow-up that you will be doing. My head model canceled so I had to drag this sorry creature in off the street in exchange for a six pack and some pocket change. Based on this I feel the decision to choose the Giro Switchblade over the Bell Super 3R is even more justified. I very much appreciate it. For me the Swichblade wins in the category simply for the increased protection. I don’t understand why the GoPro attachment wasn’t just placed on the adjustable visor. Getting a helmet that fits your riding style and necessity is important. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Both helmets offer full face protection by utilizing a wrap around chin bar and for both of these helmets the chin bar is removable. The protruding fit adjuster. This has a direct effect on heat retention. Starting with the visuals, the Super DH really looks the part both as a full face and as a half shell with the chin bar removed. In fact to put the helmet on with the thick face pads fitted I have to remove the chin bar to get enough flex to pull it over my head. As you can see from the images the foam is not solid but in strips to allow ventilation but there is clearly more impact absorbing materials in the Giro. This review aims to give you a proper understanding of whether this helmet is worth your money. read more. The Switchblade weighs in at 975g, an extra 20% over the more svelte 3R that is only 784g. On 25.7.2017 at 4:29 AM, WARPed1701D said: Full Face Helmet Showdown - Bell Super 3R vs Giro Switchblade - Impressions and Opinion. The Switchblade was designed to meet the DH standards of a full-face helmet at an enduro-acceptable weight. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. The helmet itself weighs 433 grams and the chin weighs about 335 grams. The helmet settles in one place with the help of three ski boot-style buckles. This “review” and subsequent author comments discussed the relationship of the chin bar and  the ASTM 1952 “Downhill” certification and provided some incorrect information. You can switch from a normal helmet to the Bell Super 3R MIPS helmet. I will break my text into separate posts, each containing their own related … That is acceptable, though, because the helmet covers full face protection including the neck and ears. Weight is by far an influence here but the helmet also has much less give/flex in it. Both helmets came from Amazon. The solid construction does mean you may need to fit/remove the chin bar to be able to comfortably place it on your head though. The strap wide and lined throughout with padding so it doesn’t chafe the skin. Welcome to Lone Star MTB! Bell Super 3R vs Giro Switchbade. Again, a decisive shove (more than I'd like) is required to engaged the rod and you then rotate the bar down until it locks. Nice padding can be found in the cheek area. Montaro’s weight is 381 grams and the POC Tectal Race weighs 355 grams. Full face helmets have been a topic of discussion here of late and for good reason given the increased risk of a full on face-plant that riding an EUC presents above and beyond that of almost any other mode of transportation. Since the ear straps are directly tied into the helmet and the adjusters use snap locks, the fitting you get is like a skull cap. Please read the following text and consider it to supersede any other contradictory information you have or will read. It is about 4-ounces heavier than the Leatt DBX 3.0. Secure but big and can poke the Adams apple when looking down. The Super 3R is without doubt a good helmet and a video linked later in this thread shows Bell doing frontal tests on the chin bar of the 3R’s predecessor (the 2R) that mimic those that are specified in ASTM 1952. After the eventual face plant that has you considering a full face helmet I very much hope you are still capable of "singing" that different tune! You are right that these helmets both have some great features and neither would be a bad choice. You then rotate it up about 30 degrees before pulling the bar forward. Anyway, just a small critique to an overall amazing post! You can’t go wrong with either of these helmets. Where the strap splits fore and aft of the ear there is no adjuster. I have to climb everything I go down, so trail riding, but I still hit the downhills as hard as I dare, and really need a FF for those times. Bell Sixer and 4Forty Along with the Super DH, Bell also introduced two other helmets, the Sixer and the 4Forty. And again for the cheek pads in the helmet. I think the Switchblade edges above the 3R in terms of build quality, finish, and potential longevity and you have more options with the 4 swappable pads to get just the right fit. The Giro feels more solid and makes you head feel like it is in a cocoon…a hot cocoon. The chin strap of the 3R is a standard bike helmet strap with a plastic clip. When compared to the average AM helmet or any Giro helmet, the helmet itself is on the heavier side. A second visor is also supplied. The reason for this on the vents is to grip the elastic strap of goggles/action cams/head lamps. The Bell Super series had brought about the new current changes in removable chin bar technology in mountain bike head protection. I'm guessing you are only seeing this in the main text, not the image comments that I added directly in the browser later on? To release the chin bar first press the button on each side. By I will break my text into separate posts, each containing their own related material and images. Another protrusion on the chin bar must align and fit into a rear vent on each side. All Giro helmets are designed to reduce as much energy as possible while meeting and exceeding stringent safety standards. Below, you will find an in-depth Bell Super 3R review of this mountain bike helmet. The best part about the Bell Super 3R is that it addresses the problem faced by riders with the 2R. All of these vents combine to facilitate air movement that regulated temperature perfectly. Just observations, thoughts, ramblings but I wanted to share my final opinion. These reviewers are mainly bikers working hard turning the cranks up a mountain ready for the downhill run rather than us who enjoy the effortless glide of the EUC but none the less the Giro is hotter even when just standing still. Each side of the head, below the ear, the strap splits fore and aft of the ear. They deserved that $30 so they are there for the next guy, or for your next helmet purchase (rant over). If the helmet is open faced with no option of a chin bar attachment then just the cranial helmet structure is tested. This is because anything can be come in the rider’s path. I couldn't get a good fit without the chin bar. Was it meant to do that? This will help keep everything organized. The visor in the up position may block the camera. This is why I could not road test them. Please don't post in the next 5 minutes while I add them all. Both helmets have the MIPS protection system for increased protection in certain types of impact. As a result, the chin bar component is pretty huge and, in some respects, feels a little vulnerable to me without the strength of the helmet to support it. Words by JC Canfield | Photos by Jann Eberharter. This was an absolutely fantastic overview of the two helmets that I keep coming back to. Bell doesn’t fin my head but it felt closer to my face. Helmet Bell Super 3R Mips 2017 black/red. Rotate the bar up to about 30 degrees. Mongoose HillTopper Review: Still a Good Bike? WARPed1701D, The fit adjustment dial is larger and more tucked under the lower rear lip of the helmet leaving it protected from knocks (apparently to prevent changes to the adjustment if it bangs against a neck brace). This one is fixed in a single position (the middle position I think) and has a GoPro mount molded onto the underside of it. I'm glad you like it. Again, this is not meant to be a review. The downhill certification of the Giro will impact other areas of this discussion as we come to them but for this section, in short, the Switchblade is a heavier helmet, but that is a trade off for significantly better certified impact protection. Sorry about the ugly dude in the pics. Since this helmet is not downhill certified, it does not have to follow the 1000-1200 grams downhill bike helmet standard. Since only professional mountain bike riders require downhill protection, the Bell Super 3R is a much suiter option for most riders. I can feel the light weight foam construction  and hear the usual taps and creaks bike helmet construction seems to produce. First a bit about how I ride. I have a Sixsixone FF which is fine if I'm just going downhill the whole time, but as with most trail riding you also hit trails that go back up a ways then down again. Even with the bar gone coverage is exceptional, but this will hold in the heat. The addition of a visor can accentuate this problem. The Super DH is loaded with additional features—including a 360-degree wraparound, tool-free removable chin bar beefy enough to satisfy the rigors of ASTM 1952 testing, a huge eyeglass and goggle-friendly eye port, an adjustable-height visor, snap-in camera mount, Overbrow Ventilation and X-Static padding, and a quality fit that is second to none. I’m in FL and there is no way I’d wear the Switchblade on my bike which is a huge bummer. And if your helmet is a different make/model....do a review about it (I suggest video of you can, adding all those pictures turned out to be a real PITA)! Adjustable Visor–this is a nice feature that allows for easy adjustment of the visor without much fuss. The Giro Switchblade is heavier and hotter but I think short of putting a motorbike helmet on your head it offers the best protection you could hope to get. Bell’s new Sixer blends safety with style Giro Switchblade long-term review; Inside the Super DH sits the new MIPS Spherical system, designed to protect against rotational impacts. Don’t go home and then buy on Amazon for $30 less. This visor is fixed in the middle of the three positions available on the non-camera visor. Glad you liked it. First a bit about how I ride. The 3R is certified to EN1078/CPSC Bicycle standards. Giro Switchblade. The only problem with the convertible feature of this helmet is that the chin bar requires a place to be stashed in. I don't anticipate getting one of these helmets...yet, but a couple more face plants, particularly one where the injuries could have been prevented or lessened by a full face helmet, and I may be singing a different tune, One request I had to the original posts in this thread is, can you change the color of your text to "white" or maybe "automatic"? 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